Friday, 1 August 2008

Reflections on Lakeland

I recently spent 5 consecutive days in Lakeland Florida at the outpouring working for one of our clients GOD TV. I rarely get to spend 5 consecutive days anywhere so this actually felt like a considerable chunk of time for me. I thought I would share here just a few observations from my time there – and I’d love to hear your thoughts too.

Firstly let me nail my colours to the mast right up front – I do believe something remarkable is happening in Lakeland, I don’t personally think its about Lakeland as a place – I think possibly it maybe that when Todd moves on the “happenings” will stop – I don’t necessarily however think its about Todd either – in fact I can’t answer the why him, why there and why now questions – maybe we’ll only get those after its all over – BUT I do firmly believe that something remarkable is going on there – disagree if you like that’s my opinion and here are some reflections on what I experienced there:

1. Todd – he is the same on stage as off stage; I spent some time with him and was impressed with his approachableness, passion (it oozes out of every pore) and his ability to relate to those around him. He is also as sharp as a razor (in the right way) there’s no pulling the wool over his eyes – I was also impressed with his desire to ONLY focus on the genuine – if you watch him operate he rarely “proclaims” people healed instead they are the ones proclaiming and he is REALLY keen to get evidence – which despite what some areas of the press would tell you is there in plentiful supply. He’s also seen as “one of us” read Louis story below.
2. The worship and the hunger of the people – I’ve been to LOADS of Christian meetings as part of what I do but never and I really mean NEVER have I experienced anything quite like what I experienced in Lakeland – the hunger and the passion is incredible. I walked round the outside of the tent one night and the thing that amazed me was where ever I looked people were worshiping – what’s surprising about that – well usually on the “fringes” of the meetings people tend to not engage – not so here EVERYONE I saw was interacting with God in worship – that stunned me. Then there was the noise factor. I stood by the stage when the band were NOT playing and my eardrums could barely cope with the level of noise coming from the crowd as they sang, clapped, shouted, cried etc. it was an incredible sound – again see Louis story below.
3. The healings and testimonies – this is possibly the most controversial area – are people genuinely getting healed – well all I can say from what I saw yes absolutely. We were there primarily to film testimonies of people getting healed and we found plenty, ranging from the deaf hearing, to kidney disease, to depression etc. Everyone that testified you could see had been deeply touched – many were near to tears at what God had done for them and many had clear physical improvements in their condition – some total – some partial BUT there is no doubt healings happen thick and fast. And we also filmed some people who were back after being healed previously and had gone to their doctor and got medical proof – Praise God.

All in all, I had a great 5 days, and was even more convinced when I came away that God is up to something in Lakeland – oh and the trapped nerve in my back got healed – Todd prayed for me and ever since then it has been steadily improving and improving (it was still bad before this) but now I have no pain, and virtually full movement back – I’m working on getting the muscles back to full functionality now – so there’s personal testimony for you as well.

Now to Louis story. Louis has given me permission to share this – BUT I confess I may get some facts wrong – if I do, Louis I apologise.

Louis was our sound guy for the 5 days when we were there, an American from New York of Italian descent. Louis had been brought up a catholic but had stopped going to church as he didn’t find anything genuine there – he still believed in God but on a superficial kind of level. I’m not too sure what Louis expected when he came to work with us, but he was a lovely guy, really sweet spirited etc. and we got on great. You could see after the first day when we were filming some of the testimonies that Louis was touched by the stories of what God was doing and when we went in the tent he was blown away by what I described above – and was soon asking “What do these people have that I don’t?” – he was also very taken with Todd and the fact that he was just a normal guy – we had quite a few good chats – I love people that are hungry to know more. By the last day of being there Louis was already telling us of the change that his family were seeing in him, he was talking about God all the time etc. Since we’ve come back, Louis and I have corresponded a bit and I know he is moving forward in his faith, at his request we’ve given him a couple of suggestions on bible reading plans as he wants to get into reading the bible etc. I’m going to look forward to hearing more positive stuff – but the long and short of it is that if you’re asking what the fruit of Lakeland is – well there’s one story for you right away.

I know there has been lots of criticism – the above is my take on it all after being there for a few days – is everything that’s happening there God? Undoubtedly not, there’s people who are being touched spiritually and others that are having an emotional experience only – does that mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater and disregard it all – NO – that would dishonour what God IS doing – have an open mind, don’t be dismissive, be enquiring etc. Also if you want a good solid theological argument – that’s not what I’m aiming at here – let me point you instead to an article by Rick Joyner on the Morningstar website – he’s much better qualified than me in that area – www.morningstarministries.org/Publisher/Article.aspx?id=1000034608

I hope for some the above thoughts are helpful – I would really like to know what you think so post away……..

5 comments:

Tim Sokell said...

17:08:08 Graeme... I'm copying here a comment that I have left elsewhere. I find it ALL so deeply saddening. "Yes... now we need to pray for Todd, where previously we (some) were beating a path to watch him perform. I feel so sorry for him, and hope AND pray that he withdraws to some semblance of normality in order to be reconciled with his wife and family. I also think further attention needs to be given to the masters of bling who put on these shows and bill them as 'revival'. They, and those that jump on their bandwagon need to seriously check their gullibility rating. Meanwhile hundreds are left wondering what happened, and are given the sop that now we need to pray for Todd. The words 'horse' and 'stable door' spring to mind, and the words of Bob Dylan - "...only a pawn in their game".

Anonymous said...

Dutch Sheets has issued an apology for what has happened at Lakeland and it can be read at his website http://www.dutchsheets.org/index.cfm

Graeme Spencer said...

I would recommend reading the Dutch Sheets article - I found it very useful and very helpful - it doesn't however change my personal belief that God was VERY much at work in Lakeland - I saw it with my eyes and read countless testimonies of lives changed. There are also a great couple of articles by Rick Joyner the first of which can be found at http://www.morningstarministries.org/Articles/1000036150/MorningStar_Ministries/Media/Special_Bulletins/2008/_12_The.aspx
One thing I think that does need pointing out from what I have read of Dutch's article is that at no time does he say God was not at work in Lakeland - he chastises all of us for ignoring some of the issues but even Dutch says God DID move, people DID get healed and people got saved - could we as the church "shepherded" this better and helped Todd earlier - probably BUT don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Also one personal bug bear - this is the last "anonymous" post I'll publish - please at least have the courage to tell us who you are if you have something to contribute.

Tim Sokell said...

It's a good and important letter from Dutch Sheets. Oh that we could have had similar documents from others with responsibility for endorsing the goings on in Lakeland. For instance, why was that whole 'Apostolic Alignment' nonsense televised live? Also, it would be good to see a similar apology from God TV concerning their 24-7 transmissions and therefore wholehearted endorsement for the 'Revival'. The link on their web site 'Special Prayer Request Regarding Todd Bentley' only shows us some supportive emails from viewers (subscribers?) offering prayer, when an apology statement would surely have been better.

Graeme Spencer said...

Interesting point but I think hindsight is great - at the time why should it not have been broadcast? it was done in good faith by people who are recognised as important voices on these issues.
Also I personally don't see what GOD TV have to apologise for in ANY way - the huge amount of testimonies of healings, salvations and renewed hunger - is that really something to apologise for???? GOD TV were simply the carrier of the content and as such its a bit like asking BBC Match of the Day to apologise for broadcasting pictures of the thug Joey Barton on Saturday - maybe they should have ignored it - broadcasters have a responsibility to their audience to show things in a way that allows people to make up their own minds - that is what GOD TV did and believe me when you read some of the testimonies it was all worth it and I am sure if they were in the position again they would do it as soon as possible.